Monday, October 27, 2008

What Your Vote Says About You

Please watch the video the video first and then read the quote by Greg Koukl below. This issue has been sidestepped this election season. I'm sure it's due largely to the financial problems we face. Remember that over 4,000 babies are being aborted every day, and most of these for the sake of convenience.



"If you vote for a pro-abortion candidate for personal reasons (like
economics) that are not more weighty than justice concerns (the wholesale
destruction of children), then you are doing something profoundly un-Christian.
If this happens often enough, you are either not a Christian or your
Christianity completely fails to inform your political life. One wonders if it
informs any other aspect of your life as well, and if it doesn't, then by what
right do you call yourself a Christian?" ~ Gregory Koukl

3 comments:

Simple Mann said...

So, who do you vote for then, when both candidates support abortion, when you earn less than you did five years ago, have children to support and a family to provide for and are losing your house because of failed economic policies?

McCain is only slightly more restrictive in his philosophy on abortion. And let's not forget he also divorced his wife because she was in a disfiguring accident so that he could marry a supermodel. If we vote to support someone like that (and vote to take another mom away from her children by putting her in the White House) should we question our Christianity, or can we feel comfortable with our faith?

I think the Church needs to divorce the Government. I think this marriage of politics with religion is especially bad for the children. I honestly don't care who wins the election, but I'm tired of seeing so-called Christians mindlessly following political party leaders as if they could (or should) be our shepherds. Personally, I am not looking to Washington--where people who are driven by their love of money attempt to make decisions to satisfy their own self-interests--to solve the problem of sin in our society. There is only one place to go for that, and that is Christ. People are sinners, and we live in a selfish, sinful society. I don't imagine we are too different from the Israelites who, in their sins and selfishness, stoned the prophets, preferring instead people who told them things they want to hear with no regard for truth.

God is not going to save this nation through the election of a president. God will continue to save His people by election as He so chooses through the person and divine revelation of His Son.

A call to Christians--

Please take to heart the words of John:

Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the boastful pride of life, is not from the Father, but is from the world. The world is passing away, and also its lusts; but the one who does the will of God lives forever. (1 John 2:15-17)

Jesus did not come to overthrow a government, but to establish a Kingdom no man-made system could ever touch or tarnish. Put your treasure there, and trust in Christ lest you continually disappoint yourself by the hopes of men.

Regardless of who you vote for, or who wins this election, I pray that this great nation of ours will begin to return to the values it was founded upon. I pray that we would ALL begin to honor and glorify God, to love Him with all of our hearts, all of our souls and all of our strength; and to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. I pray that we would be doers of the Word, and not hearers only. That we would die to ourselves and live in Christ. And to stop looking to our government to either fix or blame for all our problems. Our government gives us some liberties we ought to value and protect. But it is overrun with the influence of those who love money, and the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. I pray that as individuals and as a society we will start to overcome that because I am afraid that we have become like the Israelites who, in their sin and their selfishness, stoned their prophets, turning instead to men who would tell them things they wanted to hear. I pray for repentance and I pray for forgiveness... for me, for you, and for our country. May the Lord hear these prayers as He directs His will in the affairs of men. In Jesus name, amen.

Robert Tewart said...

You've said a mouthfull to be sure, and I agree with what you said. Perhaps the answer to your question "who do we vote for" is simply neither. My point was that a Vote for Obama from evangelicals is somewhat of an enigma considering that over 4,000 babies are being sought out and slaughtered every day in this nation.

Simple Mann said...

The 800 pound gorilla in the room no one wants to talk about: 4,000 babies a day is a travesty. Who will deny that? But that means that 11,688,000 occurred (or will have occurred) under the leadership of the Conservative, confessing Christian George W. Bush. No substantial changes in legislation have occurred, not even when he had both houses of Congress, a lop-sided Supreme Court, and the support of an entire nation behind him after 9/11. Why? Because the real truth of the matter is that no matter who is in the White House, abortion isn't going away. Why? Because we are a selfish, sinful people. We're sinners.

Here's another thing no one wants to talk about. Do you know anyone who's had an abortion? I do. I know quite a few, and truth be told, I probably know more than I *think* I do. What do I mean? I mean, the people that I *know* had one, I know intimately enough to know about. I'm sure our churches and possibly even the families of our closest friends are littered with people who live with the guilt of one, although we may never know it.

I know people who were alcoholics, drug addicts, sex addicts, or just plain selfish and boastful. I know some people stay that way, but I also know some who God has chosen and changed. I'm one of them. Sinners all, and I will say as Paul, myself a chief among them. All too many (dare I even say every SINGLE one) of us who calls on the name of Christ as Savior today has made decisions in the past for which we are ashamed, done things motivated by sin and selfishness and all the power of Satan upon us. Yet God in His great mercy took pity on us. This is the gospel ~ that we may be saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ! Not because of anything we have done, but because of what He has done.

We won't be saved because we voted Republican or voted Democrat (or chose not to vote at all). We won't be saved because we had a baby instead of an abortion. Indeed, I am sad to say I know (and love) people who have had lots of babies and unless God does a work in their lives, they are destined for hell.

When it comes down to it, abortion is a matter of the law, and we know well enough that no one is saved by the law. I don't like it, either, am not here to defend it, but I have come to understand that some things like abortion, adultery, and pornography will not go away simply because a segment of the population is publicly offended by them. Until our Lord comes to establish His Kingdom in all His glory, we will live in this fallen world and suffer its sin. And why? Because it is full of sinners who love their sin--just as we ourselves once did and even today rely completely on the power of His Spirit to overcome. Lord, help me to not pray like the Pharisee, thanking you I am not like that poor sinner who stands over there beating his breast and pleading for mercy. I am that man; have mercy on me, A SINNER!

I cannot count the number of emails I've received over the last couple of months that have sought through all sorts of persuasion, often relying on fear, deception, and half-truths to convince me that Obama is evil, a Muslim, the anti-Christ, an abortion-lover, whatever. The truth is, he is none of those things. And neither is McCain. You know what they are? Sinners. Just like the people who keep sending me the emails. Sinners. Just like you and me. But what has started to bother me is how repugnant some of these letters are in their self-righteousness. It bothers me when I get emails from people that will decline every invitation to come to church and who hold on to tightly to their favorite sins, but come election time they're suddenly "religious" and concerned about electing a candidate who represents their "values".

It's funny how everyone gets so righteous right before an election, and how suddenly moral they will become. People who rarely attend church (I have one neighbor who won't because he doesn't want to tithe!) suddenly get very religious and it's almost worse with the folks who do. The Republican party has learned that they can manipulate a large segment of the voting population (the evangelicals) with this hot button issue. It's almost silly. Personally, I don't put much stock or faith in either party platform, but I'm almost more offended by the hypocrisy of the Republicans at this point.

Abortion - yes it is a sin. Thou shalt not commit murder. It is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. As I already said, though, how many people do we really know that might have had one at some point in their life? And are they outside the bounds of Christ? One would hope that our brothers and sisters in the church are not still having them, and it is a great and polarizing topic to discuss. We can all get together and hate this sin together. But what of adultery? Is this not the very next commandment--and how often has this one been violated WITHIN the very walls of the church!? Yet, do we say that this is less abominable in the eyes of our Holy God? That some sins are more forgivable? Does not adultery destroy just as many (if not more) families in our culture as abortion? Yet who makes this a platform position--to do away with any and all forms of adultery (including and starting with pornography)!? No one. Now why is that?

I know that I’ve said quite a bit here. I rather apologize – I’ve just found this blog and here I’ve gone and vomited up all this stuff that’s been giving me indigestion this whole week. I am sorry to come over and make a mess of your blog-room. Please forgive me. I am eager for this election to be over and done; I think we could all use a break from the senseless propagandizing. And I, for one, would like to see a re-turn from politics to Scripture. May we all return to a right view of ourselves, and a proper view of God lest our pride run away with us.

In Christ, for His glory ~
Simple Mann